[vallalargroups:2309] Re: reply

Dear Mahendran,

You are perfectly Correct.

Our Vallal Peruman not getting knowledge from any Living Guru.

At the beginning he select Thiru Gnana Sambanthar as his Maanaseeka Guru.

After that He Published Ozhivil Odukkam written by Kaazhi Kannudaiya Pillai who is student of Thiru Gnana Sambanthar and the notes was written by Thiruporur Sidhambara Swamigal.

It is possible to guess Thiruporur Sidhambara Swamigal also his Maanaseeka Guru. 

Why because He also mingled in the space as same as Our Vallal Perumaan and the Book Ozhivil Odukkam is the Very best Sanmaarkka Book. 

This book explained much more detail as same as Our Vallalar reached the Oli stage.

So we conclude no Samathi Gurus are teach Our Perumaan.

Anbudan

V.T. Arumugha Arasu

2009/10/22 Magendran pk <magendran.pk@gmail.com>

Dear RAM ayya,

Iam glad to see that our group members are discussing there own experiences. I also came to spirituality 10 years back and visited so many places and gurus. Finally i came to vallalar. I heard the speeches of kuppusamy ayya, Thambaiah ayya etc that increased my knowledge about vallalar songs and his teachings, as i dono to read tamil(Settled in Karnataka). But now to study vallalar books i learnt tamil.

 According to my knowledge to reach spiritual heights we may meet so many persons and gain some knowledge, but in vallal peruman's case he learnt directly from arutperumjyothi andavar itself. In some places he mentions thiruGnanasambandhar as guru. I also studied Gnanasambandhar's history in which it depicts that he also attained maranam illa peru Vazhvu. So you have mentioned that vallalar had some guru who attained samadhi, but to my knowledge he cannot be vallal peruman's guru as attaining samadhi is lower state than what vallal peruman has reached. My belief is that a person can reach the spiritual state upto what his guru has achieved. so vallal peruman has crossed all the states of his predecessors (Which includes those who attained samadhi) as his guru is arutperumjyothi andavar itself. He says this in one of his poems as mentioned below.

"Muktharum siddharum devarum yaavarum petrida perinbam iyal ennakku alittha arutperumjyothi"

Thanks and Regards,
P.K.Magendran

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