Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Re: [vallalargroups:3421] Mukthi and Siddhi

RESPECTED DR.SIVARAMAN,
        AS YOU HAVE RIGHTLY POINTED OUT, VALLALAR IN HIS EACH AND EVERY STAGE OF LIFE, ATTAINMENTS KEPT HIMSELF UNIVERSAL, WORKED FOR COLLECTIVE UPLIFTMENT.
LET US AUGMENT THESE KIND OF SAT VICHAARAM ( NOT SATHVISARAM) IN THE DAYS TO COME.
DAYAVUDAN
SAYEEGANESH.
9894765247.

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Sivaraman k <sivaguna2005@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Sanmargis
I am Dr Sivaraman ,general secretary of VALLALAR PANNATTU SANMARGA SANGAM,CHENNAI.I hav studied ur SATHVISARAM on  Mukthi &Siddhi.I would like to throw some light to the extent i know.
Mukthi means the ectasy engulfing oneself  in
eternal bliss.This ectasy only the person involved in prayful devotion or samadhi stage of meditaion or penance gets it.This is selfcentered but it is a step towards mukthi.
Siddhi on the otherhand is an unique experience of eternal bliss when a SATHYAN [next to sadagan stage]   practising  JEEVAKARUNYA   at empathic state experiences when the ALMLGHTY  ARUTPERUM JOTHI descends on him in  fourth stage of  PURUSHARTHAM.This is the  Gnana Siddhi that VALLALAR  experienced  in his unique compassion and  empathic state with  his compassionate deeds leading to  universal  happiness of all creatures.Sddhi is not selfcentered  as Mukthi. With regards
Yours
Siva 

--- On Wed, 25/8/10, thambidhurai e <thambiduraie@gmail.com> wrote:

From: thambidhurai e <thambiduraie@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vallalargroups:3391] Mukthi and Siddhi
To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 4:57 PM


anubulla ayya,

ungalin melaana aasikku mikka nandri.

I hope atleast i am blessed to have find the path of truth.

thank you once again for enlightening and thought-provoking explanation.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, sayeeganesh juttusaibabasubramanian
<dayasayeeaug11@gmail.com> wrote:
> DEAR SIR
>           WE WILL HAVE MIND IN PURER FORM.
>           DIVERSION IS ILLUSION. IN PURITY, NO ILLUSION.
>           MIND IS NOTHING BUT A FRACTION OF GOD.
>           WITHOUT MIND THERE IS NO SIDDHI EXPERIENCE.
>           YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH 'INGITHA MAALAI ' IN THIRU ARUTPA.
> DAYAVUDAN
> SAYEEGANESH.
> 9894765247.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, arumugha arasu.v.t
> <arumughaarasu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Brother Sayee Ganesh,
>> Thank you.
>> In your definintion in the siddhi stage mind is there and in pure stage.
>> But
>> I think mind doesn't get purified. why because Its main duty is always
>> divert the knowldge.
>> In this stage the mind lose its stage and mingled with knowledge.
>> Then there is no mind.
>> Who Hanuman is
>> Hanuman is son of Air.
>> Here in our body Purified Air Oxygen ( Prana Vaivu ) is called Hanuman.
>> Thanking you
>> Yours lovingly
>> V.T. Arumugha Arasu
>>
>> On 20 August 2010 13:36, sayeeganesh juttusaibabasubramanian
>> <dayasayeeaug11@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> DEAR SIR,
>>>          NICE DEFINITION, THANK YOU.
>>>          IN SIDDHI OUR MIND WILL BE THERE BUT IN A PURER FORM. FOR eg THE
>>> NORMAL MIND IS LIKE A MONKEY, PURE MIND WILL BE LIKE HANUMAN, HANUMAN IS
>>> DEATHLESS. AND SO ON.
>>> DAYAVUDAN
>>> SAYEEGANESH.
>>> 9894765247.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:53 PM, arumugha arasu.v.t
>>> <arumughaarasu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mukthi and Siddhi
>>>>
>>>> What is meant by Mukthi and Siddhi ? How can we attain Mukthi and Siddhi
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Mukthi enbathu munnurum saathanam
>>>> Sitthi enbathu nilai serntha Anubavam
>>>>
>>>> There are two levels to attain God's Grace and Mingle withShivam that is
>>>> God.
>>>> One stage is Mukthi and the another stage is Sitthi
>>>> What is the difference between Mukthi and Sitthi ?
>>>> First we understand what is Mukthi and Sitthi.
>>>>
>>>> Mukthi :
>>>> Most of the Gnanis are mingled with the Shivam. That is their Athma and
>>>> Jeevan mingled with God but the body doesn't mingle with Shivam.
>>>> They get Samaathi stage.
>>>> What is Samaathi Stage ?
>>>> Samaathi is nothing but your mind mingle in your Jeevan.
>>>> Your outer concious get back to innner concious.
>>>> After that your inner concious is also lost.
>>>> In this stage you are not there why because
>>>> You lost your inner concious and outer concious.
>>>> You are not able to know what is happening in this stage.
>>>> That concious of I is lost.
>>>> At this stage you mingled with Param that is Shivam that is God.
>>>> But You are not able to experience the Mingle with God.
>>>> Why because you are mingled with God.
>>>> There is no YOU.
>>>>
>>>> Sitthi :
>>>> Sitthi is nothing but same as Mukthi but some difference is there.
>>>> In Sitthi Your mind mingled with Jeevan and Jeevan Mingled with Athma
>>>> But the Athma is in Concious and know the
>>>> Level and Mingled with Shivam.
>>>> Before Sitthi our material body is changed and get power
>>>> to mingle with God.
>>>> The Material body changed in to Sukshuma body.
>>>> The sukshuma body having only Athma concious
>>>> not with mind's inner concious and outer concious.
>>>> In Sitthi your athma gets the experience of
>>>> Mingled with God.
>>>> Your Athma return back after Mingled with God.
>>>> After that you know all the truth of the Universe.
>>>> There is no abstacles to your body and Athma.
>>>>
>>>> All these two stages are attained only with God's Grace
>>>> Your Older experience (Mur Piravi) in study this subject.
>>>> Totally destroyed Mind's Level.
>>>> In Mukthi and Sitthi if your mind is working in inner concious or
>>>> outer concious level means you are not enter even in to the first stage.
>>>> Mind is the main abstacle to know the God.
>>>> Mindless Athma is only able to know the God and mingled with God.
>>>>
>>>> It is not easy to explain all the stages in Mukthi and Sitthi.
>>>> why because there is no words to explain all the stages.
>>>>
>>>> I try to explain my best level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brotherly Athman
>>>> Sivam
>>>>
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