Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Re: [vallalargroups:3386] Mukthi and Siddhi

Dear Brother Damotharan,

Thank you.

In the stages of Mukthi and Siddhi you lost your " I " concious.

If you are having I concious means your mind is working with your body conciuosness.

If you are in body concious means you never enter the stage.
why because your mind divert you outer.

It is called thatthuva nikkirakam.
that is we leave from 96 thatthuvam.

If you practice the Saaka kalvi you leave from the Thatthuvam.

It is very important you get away from 96 thathuvam.

In this practice you leave from your body concious, Mind, Breathing, Feeling and all.

That's why our Vallal perumaan told

Ema Sitthi
Saakaa Kalvi
Thatthuva Nikkirakam
Kadavul Nilai Arinthu Ammayamaathal

If you are in body or mind concious level means you never 
came out from thatthuvam.


Thanking you

yours lovingly,
V.T. Arumugha Arasu 

On 19 August 2010 15:01, s damodar <sdamo_dar@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Arumugha Arasu Sir,

Your Explanation on Mukti & Siddhi,

Mukti kondirupavan mukti and sivathai adainthvan siddi enpathupol ulladhu,

Mukti enumbodhu you are sub conscious level And when you are at siddhi you are at supper conscious level. Only that much i can understand from your explanation.
Hence, we have to accept that with out your knowledge u can not reach any level. Even if you see the god, we have to accept that it is god, and sivane entru erupathuve, with out getting emotional level.

So pls do not take any controversial emotionally and feel sorry for it. It is all to weigh our self to under stand better of our self. I am writing like this because my level is only this much.

Regards,
DAMODARAN,
09844165921

--- On Wed, 18/8/10, arumugha arasu.v.t <arumughaarasu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: arumugha arasu.v.t <arumughaarasu@gmail.com>
Subject: [vallalargroups:3360] Mukthi and Siddhi
To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 8:53 PM

Mukthi and Siddhi

What is meant by Mukthi and Siddhi ? How can we attain Mukthi and Siddhi ?

Mukthi enbathu munnurum saathanam
Sitthi enbathu nilai serntha Anubavam

There are two levels to attain God's Grace and Mingle withShivam that is God.
One stage is Mukthi and the another stage is Sitthi
What is the difference between Mukthi and Sitthi ?
First we understand what is Mukthi and Sitthi.

Mukthi :
Most of the Gnanis are mingled with the Shivam. That is their Athma and Jeevan mingled with God but the body doesn't mingle with Shivam.
They get Samaathi stage.
What is Samaathi Stage ?
Samaathi is nothing but your mind mingle in your Jeevan.
Your outer concious get back to innner concious.
After that your inner concious is also lost.
In this stage you are not there why because
You lost your inner concious and outer concious.
You are not able to know what is happening in this stage.
That concious of I is lost.
At this stage you mingled with Param that is Shivam that is God.
But You are not able to experience the Mingle with God.
Why because you are mingled with God.
There is no YOU.

Sitthi :
Sitthi is nothing but same as Mukthi but some difference is there.
In Sitthi Your mind mingled with Jeevan and Jeevan Mingled with Athma
But the Athma is in Concious and know the 
Level and Mingled with Shivam.
Before Sitthi our material body is changed and get power 
to mingle with God.
The Material body changed in to Sukshuma body.
The sukshuma body having only Athma concious
not with mind's inner concious and outer concious.
In Sitthi your athma gets the experience of
Mingled with God.
Your Athma return back after Mingled with God.
After that you know all the truth of the Universe.
There is no abstacles to your body and Athma.

All these two stages are attained only with God's Grace
Your Older experience (Mur Piravi) in study this subject.
Totally destroyed Mind's Level.
In Mukthi and Sitthi if your mind is working in inner concious or 
outer concious level means you are not enter even in to the first stage.
Mind is the main abstacle to know the God.
Mindless Athma is only able to know the God and mingled with God.

It is not easy to explain all the stages in Mukthi and Sitthi.
why because there is no words to explain all the stages.

I try to explain my best level.


Brotherly Athman
Sivam

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