Answer for :
What is meant by Mukthi and Siddhi ? How can we attain Mukthi and Siddhi ?
Mukthi enbathu munnurum saathanam
Sitthi enbathu nilai serntha Anubavam
There are two levels to attain God's Grace and Mingle withShivam that is God.
One stage is Mukthi and the another stage is Sitthi
What is the difference between Mukthi and Sitthi ?
First we understand what is Mukthi and Sitthi.
Mukthi :
Most of the Gnanis are mingled with the Shivam. That is their Athma and Jeevan mingled with God but the body doesn't mingle with Shivam.
They get Samaathi stage.
What is Samaathi Stage ?
Samaathi is nothing but your mind mingle in your Jeevan.
Your outer concious get back to innner concious.
After that your inner concious is also lost.
In this stage you are not there why because
You lost your inner concious and outer concious.
You are not able to know what is happening in this stage.
That concious of I is lost.
At this stage you mingled with Param that is Shivam that is God.
But You are not able to experience the Mingle with God.
Why because you are mingled with God.
There is no YOU.
Sitthi :
Sitthi is nothing but same as Mukthi but some difference is there.
In Sitthi Your mind mingled with Jeevan and Jeevan Mingled with Athma
But the Athma is in Concious and know the
Level and Mingled with Shivam.
Before Sitthi our material body is changed and get power
to mingle with God.
The Material body changed in to Sukshuma body.
The sukshuma body having only Athma concious
not with mind's inner concious and outer concious.
In Sitthi your athma gets the experience of
Mingled with God.
Your Athma return back after Mingled with God.
After that you know all the truth of the Universe.
There is no abstacles to your body and Athma.
All these two stages are attained only with God's Grace
Your Older experience (Mur Piravi) in study this subject.
Totally destroyed Mind's Level.
In Mukthi and Sitthi if your mind is working in inner concious or
outer concious level means you are not enter even in to the first stage.
Mind is the main abstacle to know the God.
Mindless Athma is only able to know the God and mingled with God.
It is not easy to explain all the stages in Mukthi and Sitthi.
why because there is no words to explain all the stages.
I try to explain my best level.
Thanking you
yours
Brotherly Athman
Nakinam Sivam
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nakinam sivam <nakinam@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Nakinam sivam <nakinam@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [vallalargroups:2357] Re: List of SATH-Vichara Questions & Function Albums - Bangalore November 2009
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Dear Brotherly Athman,Answer for Can we do Vasi Yogam for Longer PeriodWhat is Vasi Yogam ?In Pathanjali's Yoga Soothra -Vasi yogam means inhaling the air by one side of the noseand get back the air to another nose.In this system your mind thinking that Moolaathaara Sakra is moving to upward.It is absolutely imagination of our mind.Moolaathaaram to aangjai all the stages are getting only by your mind's imagination.In Vasi yogam your breathing system will be purified.But you lose your life level. why because all our life level is attached with our breathing level.Also waste your pranan.In Tamil language Breathing Air is Prana Vaivu.This air helps to life - live long time.In Vasi yogam we lose our prana vaivu.In Sithar maargamthey are also telling about Vasi Yogam.But it is different from Pathanjali's Yoga SystemThey are telling that inhale the air by right side of the nose.Push it to Head by slowly.In our human body 9 holes are seems to be there.but there is another hole is there in our body.It is upside of the mouth.This is the secret path.That path is the way to send the prana Vaivu to head.Then the prana vaivu not return back.It is mingled with Pranan.It helps your mind to inner conciuosness.The mind not go around the outer conciuosness.This makes very easy to meditate and way to feel or see sit pranan that is Athma.Thanking you,yours Brotherly Athman,Nakinam Sivam--
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nakinam sivam <nakinam@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Brotherly Athma,Answer for How to feel or experience chit prananWhat is Chit Pranan ?Chit Pranan is called as Jeevan.It is came from AthmaAthma came from Sivam that is God.If you want to feel or experience the Jeevan and Athma meansFirst you know about the state of that.Athma is not a sthoola state. it is sookshuma state.you see the sthula material by your sthula eye.If you want to see the air means you only feel. not see the air.The Athman is sukshuma that's why we can't see it.But one way is there to feel and see the Athma.The main abstacle to see or feel the Athma is Mind.The mind's main duty is get you in to outer conciuos.But the Athma is in inner conciuos.outer concious mind can't see or feel Athma.The only way to see or feel the Athma is you divert your outer concious to inner concious.Then you get the experience of conciousless stage that is called Thuriyam.It is also like sleeping but it is not true sleeping it is conciousless mind.after that you become SUPER INNER CONCIOUS
then you see the sit praanan
If your outer concious is working means you cant feel or see the Sit Pranan.There are many more ways to see the Sit pranan1. Sariyayil Gnanam2. Kiriya Yogam3. Kiriya Gnanam4. Yoga Kirya5. Yoga Gnanam6. Gnana Yogam7. Gnana GnanamIf you want permanently mingled with God means you choose only Gnana Yogam.That is Sutha Sanmaarkam. It is 15th stage of 16 Levels.If you practice Sutha Sanmaarkam means you easily enter the 16 th Stage of Ganana Gnanam.Except these all the ways are only see or feel the Athman.But not able to continue there.Thanking youyours Brotherly AthmanNakinam Sivam
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM, jayanth k <jayanth.msc@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Manokaran,For ULSER you can eat alovera (Sotru kathalai in tamil).NOTE: It should be consumed in early morning with empty stomach condition. Please do not drink tea/coffee after eating this in morning.Procedure:1)Slice the green layer of the leaf. you can find a jelly like substance inside2)Take the Jelly like substance and then wash it 7 times with Running water so that it will beready to eat.3) You can eat as it is.. it will not have any taste.Optional :4) If u find hard to eat then make juice by adding (Panangal kandu) & Sathukudi along that will be good for taste.below is the image of the alovera.
2009/11/3 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>
Inbutru Vazga,Dear All,In Bangalore, Monthly ONE DAY SATSANG and Meditation Camp has happened successfuly with God's Grace.These are the Consolidated List of SAT-VICHARA QUESTIONS asked by function attendes...List Of Questions in ENGLISH:1. How to feel or experience chit pranan ? ( P.K.Magandran,M.Tech,Bangalore)2. Can we do VasiYogam for Longer Period ?(P.K.Magandran,M.Tech,Bangalore)3. Please explain advanced type of Vasiyogam?(P.K.Magandran,M.Tech,Bangalore)4. What is meant by Mukthi and Siddhi ? How can we attain Mukthi and Siddhi ?(Name not mentioned)5. While doing meditation I don't get proper concentration?What Can I do for that??(Name not mentioned)List Of Questions in TAMIL:
- சாகதலை, வேகாகால் இதன் விளக்கம்...
- தியானம் செய்யும்போது சில சமயம் உறக்கம் வருகிறது ஏன்? அது வராமல் இருக்க என்ன செய்ய வேண்டும் ?
- உயிர், ஆன்மா , ஆவி இவை மூன்றும் எவ்வாறு வேறுபடுகின்றன ? ( ஏகாம்பரம் )
- ஞானம் என்றால் என்ன ? அறிவு என்றால் என்ன ? ( ஏகாம்பரம் )
- ரத்த அழுத்தம் , சர்க்கரை நோய் இந்த நோய்களுக்கு எளிய முறையில் தியானம் , உடற் பயிற்சி விளக்க பணிவன்புடன் கேட்டு கொள்கிறேன் ?( L.T மணி )
- சிற்சபை எங்கே உள்ளது ?
- வள்ளலார் தமது ஏன் 51வது வயதிலேயே இறைவனுடன் சேர முடிவு செய்தார் ?விவரமாக கூறுங்கள்... ( அல்சூர் . சதாசிவம் )
- எழுமின் , விழுமின் என்றால் என்ன ? ( மனோகரன்)
- ULSER நோய்க்கு நல்ல மருந்து என்ன ? ( மனோகரன்)
- தனித்திரு , பசித்திரு , விழித்திரு விளக்கம் கூறுங்கள்...( மனோகரன்)
Next Bangalore Function :( Vallalar Birthday Function)
- 15-Nov-2009
6-Dec-2009 - Salem Kuppusamy Ayya SATSANG
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