Wednesday, July 29, 2009

[vallalargroups:1910] Re: Jeeva Karunyam

Dear Swami Chithanya Abisekh,
 
Saiva Siththaantham and VaiNavam pervarded by Northern Sanathanik Hinduism, and the seer poets referred to by you  belong to AD centuries after 7 century AD; they have incorporated the 'jeevan ' concept, foreign to ancient Ajeevakas/AmaNar Sidhars of India. Morover Saivisam has branched out into so many divisions and cults in later AD enturies. To look back at the original concept of Saivam as originated in ancient Thamizhakam, as a form of Nature worship of Trees and Lingam as a sign mark, please go to the earlier ThirumaRaikaL, particularly the basic and authentic one 'Thirumanthiram' of Thirumuular of the first centuries who has said clearly:
 
'Udambaar azhyin uyiraar azhivar; thidambada maiy gnanamu saeravum maattaar
Udambai vaLarththaen uyir vaLarthaenaye'
 
'Udambinai munnam izhukku entRirunthaen; udambinuLae uRu poruL kaNdaen
Udambinai yaan  irunthu voumbukintRatha'
 
The basics of Naatha Vindhu is not unknown to Thamizhzs from ancient times from Tholkaappiyam, ThirukkuRaL and the mystic Sidhars.
 
With regards  J.Narayanasamy 
From: Chithanya Abisekh <abi1962@yahoo.com>
To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 8:31:01 AM
Subject: [vallalargroups:1905] Re: Jeeva Karunyam

DEAR
SADHAK
OTHER RELIGIONG DO NOT HAVE THE CONCEPT OF :NADHAMUM BHINDHUM".SO THEY CANNOT TRY BECOMING THE INNER TRUESELF.THE "MARANAMILAPPERUVAZHVU".
 
ThirugnyaSambandar, Adhi Sankarar and Shri Ramanujar (all Rishis) DO NOT ACCEPT SOULLESS SUNYA CONCEPT OF BHUDIST & JAINS.
Bhudha,Jains, Christianity ,Islam etc all are having the discipline for basic human life.We should not disrespect others BUT SHOULD NOT LOSE "THE SATHYA".
 
Why do not we follow other concepts. WHY NEED TO FOLLOW SHRI RAMALINGAM.
ARUTPERUNJYOTHI SARIERI SHRI RAMALINGAM MAY POUR HIS BLESSINGS( THANIPPERUNKARUNAI) ON ALL OF US.
 
 
BLESSINGS

From: Jagannathan Narayanasamy <janakum1@yahoo.co.in>
To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:12:55 PM
Subject: [vallalargroups:1893] Re: Jeeva Karunyam

Thiru Chaithanya Abisekh seems to be expanding his imagination and coceptualization on a phylosophical plane. Every one has the liberty to give interpretations.
 
In the context of VaLLaar's text, for the ordinary human being  ; Jeeva KaaruNiyam' has aequate meaning as 'Compassion and love of all living (jeeva) beings, which includes humans, animals, plants and the earth and uivese which consist of matter of  atoms that  are in perpectual motion, and hence alive.
 
The concept of soul is not accepted by all religions like Budhism, by Ajeevakars and Aghnosts.
 
J.Narayanasamy

From: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>
To: Vallalar Groups <vallalargroups@googlegroups.com>
Cc: abi1962@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, 27 July, 2009 10:03:55 AM
Subject: [vallalargroups:1889] Jeeva Karunyam

FYI

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From: Chithanya Abisekh <abi1962@yahoo.com>
Date: 2009/7/27
Subject: Jeeva Karunyam
To: karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com


Karunamoorthy Aahiya Athmanukku Vanakkam.
 
GOD IS GREAT SOUL. JEEVAN IS A GREAT SOUL SEEMS TO BE SMALLER THAN GOD BCOZ OF ITS DEPENDENCE ON VERY TINY NATURE.
 ALL SOULS ARE NET CONNECTED WITH THE SPIRIT OF GREAT UNIVERSAL SOUL . SO IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO RESPECT ALL SOULS(HUMAN , ANIMALS & PLANTS) without bothering ITS DIFFERENT CHARECTERS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH NATURE AND THE WILL(GRACE) OF GOD(GREAT SOUL).Care, Concern and involvement is necessary.WE SHOULD ABLE TO BEAR WITH SOME DIFFICULTIESif any; IT IS NOTHING BUT WE ARE TOLLARATING OUR BODY PAIN BEFORE THE CURE.
 
 RESPECT TO AND PURE CORDIAL RESPONCE TO ALL SOULS (its longings) IS THE RIGHT FEELING TO HAVE AN INTIMATE CONNECTION WITH THE WEBCIRCLE OF GREAT GOD.WE ARE IN A SINGLE PIN. SO TO HAVE A MAXIMUM VOTING CONNECTIONS WE SHOULD HAVE A FEEL TO FEEL ABOUT EVERY ONE / ALL ATHMAS/SOULS.
 
THIS FEELING WITH DEEP SENCE OF UNDERSTANDING AND PURE DESIRE TO HELP ALL ( We are helping one/all of our organ in our Body) IS named as JEEVA KARUNYAM.
Jeevan-- Soul / Athma
Karunyam -- Love, Respect, care and concern.(our soul and other soulis same and ONE; even though body is seem to be parted away)
The most importantant is respect and FOOD TO BODY AND THEN FOOD TO KNOWLEDGE.
TO LIVE YOUSELF YOU HAVE TO HELP THE LIVING OF OTHER SOULS.
 
 
Nandhri Mahane
Swamy Shrinivasa Ramanujadhasan




--
Vallal Malaradi Vaalga Vaalga


With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J

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