Saturday, March 26, 2011

Re: [vallalargroups:4021] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi


hi,
one can attain vallalar state after getting three bodies called sutha pranava and gana thegam.jeeva samadhi is the prior stage.
>I have one doubt for long time. If any one knows about this please explain me.

What is the difference between JEEVA

SAMADHI and VALLALAR MUKTHI ADAINTHA VITHAM?





Mostly all other Sithargal are

attain JEEVA SAMADHI, not like Vallal Peruman!!!!!!!!!. Why?





So what is the differs between

those two? Thank you. Valli.









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[vallalargroups:4037] Thiruvarutpa.Vedio Song














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Friday, March 25, 2011

[vallalargroups:4020] 'குரு' என்னும் வார்த்தை திருவருட்பா முழுவதிலும் 397 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

'குரு' என்னும் வார்த்தை திருவருட்பா முழுவதிலும் 397 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

முதல் திருமுறை
56 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

இரண்டாம் திருமுறை
23 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

மூன்றாம் திருமுறை
42 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

நான்காம் திருமுறை
25 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

ஐந்தாம் திருமுறை
58 இடங்களில் உள்ளன

ஆறாம் திருமுறை
193 இடங்களில் உள்ளன





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Wednesday, March 23, 2011

Re: [vallalargroups:4019] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi

DEAR MADAM
PLEASE REFER OUR OLD DISCUSSIONS ON JEEVASAMADHI.
OTHERWISE CALL ME
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On 3/22/11, kathi shanmugam <splkarthib4u@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Hi Valliammai,
> Samadhi is a form of meditation you do to get mukthi that is with your
> physical body.
> Vallal peruman had attained sidhi (Mukthi is a stage or an activity to be
> performed for attaining sidhi)
> Mukthi enbadhu munuru sadhanam
> sidhi enbadhu nilai seruntha anubavam refer agaval
> Vallal peruman has attained sidhi by transforming his physical body to light
> and merge with almighty god (arutperunjothi), the almighty arutperunjothi is
> there everywhere and inside everything and vallal peruman do so as he has
> merged with the almighty.
> Sir's if i am wrong please guide me.
> Also please note that there are sidhas who has also merged with god with
> their physical body.
> Vallal peruman says that it is the ultimate destiny for any human being to
> merge with god with your physical body by converting them to jothi (light
> form).
> One small song from sivavakiyam for you to analyse.
>  sei kurukal anadhum sodhi meni avadhum
> sarkurukal anadhum sathirangal solvadhum
> mei kurukal anadhum therandu urunda thumaiyai.
> In the above song sivavakiyar say sodhi meni avadhum what does that mean?
> Please analyse, it is gud to ask questions and keep going
> Also please check for this
> Prophet Muhammed had asked the islamic brothers to do namas five times a day
> and before every namas there are set of rules to be implemented like
> goggling of the water in the throat and sneeze the water through your nose
> please analyse this why?
> Also check for the word Siranadu what does that mean?
> May the almighty and vallal peruman gives you all the answers u require and
> guide u.
> Regards,
> Karthick
> --- On Tue, 22/3/11, valliammai ramanathan <valli_sat@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: valliammai ramanathan <valli_sat@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [vallalargroups:4016] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi
> To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 8:23 AM
>
>
> I have one doubt for long time.   If any one knows about this please explain
> me.
>                                             What is the difference between
> JEEVA
> SAMADHI and VALLALAR MUKTHI ADAINTHA VITHAM?
>
>
>                                             Mostly all other Sithargal are
> attain JEEVA SAMADHI, not like Vallal Peruman!!!!!!!!!. Why?
>
>
>                                              So what is the differs between
> those two?                Thank you.           Valli.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [vallalargroups:4026] Message to Sanmarga sangam

DEAR ALL,
THIS IS ATROCIUS
IRRELEVANT THINKING
I STRONGLY PROTEST POSTING OF THESE KIND OF MAILS IN OUR GROUP.
LET US FORGIVE AND FORGET THIS LUNATICS.
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On 3/8/11, Rudra shiva <lakankamal1983@gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaskar,
>
> Dear all,
>
> We have above attached Great message of Arutperum jothi andavar.
> World peace and world government will form in very short period and
> soon...
>
> If any more details needed, please contact below person in mobile numbers.
>
> With loving regards,
>
> Dr.M.V.M.Muthu Phd., Coimbatore. 094437 20089
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> Mr.K.Kamalakannan BA.,BL., Chennai. 095432 55092
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Tuesday, March 22, 2011

[vallalargroups:4018] mexcio sanmarga sangam photo


ARUTPERUNJOTHI,SANMARGA SANGAM IN MEXCIO.
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Re: [vallalargroups:4017] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi

Hi Valliammai,
Samadhi is a form of meditation you do to get mukthi that is with your physical body.
Vallal peruman had attained sidhi (Mukthi is a stage or an activity to be performed for attaining sidhi)
Mukthi enbadhu munuru sadhanam
sidhi enbadhu nilai seruntha anubavam refer agaval
Vallal peruman has attained sidhi by transforming his physical body to light and merge with almighty god (arutperunjothi), the almighty arutperunjothi is there everywhere and inside everything and vallal peruman do so as he has merged with the almighty.
Sir's if i am wrong please guide me.
Also please note that there are sidhas who has also merged with god with their physical body.
Vallal peruman says that it is the ultimate destiny for any human being to merge with god with your physical body by converting them to jothi (light form).
One small song from sivavakiyam for you to analyse.
 sei kurukal anadhum sodhi meni avadhum
sarkurukal anadhum sathirangal solvadhum
mei kurukal anadhum therandu urunda thumaiyai.
In the above song sivavakiyar say sodhi meni avadhum what does that mean?
Please analyse, it is gud to ask questions and keep going
Also please check for this
Prophet Muhammed had asked the islamic brothers to do namas five times a day
and before every namas there are set of rules to be implemented like goggling of the water in the throat and sneeze the water through your nose please analyse this why?
Also check for the word Siranadu what does that mean? 
May the almighty and vallal peruman gives you all the answers u require and guide u.
Regards,
Karthick
--- On Tue, 22/3/11, valliammai ramanathan <valli_sat@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: valliammai ramanathan <valli_sat@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vallalargroups:4016] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi
To: vallalargroups@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 8:23 AM

I have one doubt for long time.   If any one knows about this please explain me.
                                            What is the difference between JEEVA
SAMADHI and VALLALAR MUKTHI ADAINTHA VITHAM?


                                            Mostly all other Sithargal are
attain JEEVA SAMADHI, not like Vallal Peruman!!!!!!!!!. Why?


                                             So what is the differs between
those two?                Thank you.           Valli.


     

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[vallalargroups:4016] Vallalar's Mukthi VS Jeeva samadhi

I have one doubt for long time. If any one knows about this please explain me.
What is the difference between JEEVA
SAMADHI and VALLALAR MUKTHI ADAINTHA VITHAM?


Mostly all other Sithargal are
attain JEEVA SAMADHI, not like Vallal Peruman!!!!!!!!!. Why?


So what is the differs between
those two? Thank you. Valli.




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Saturday, March 19, 2011

[vallalargroups:4015] Fwd: Must Watch


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[vallalargroups:4012] Thiruvadi Perumai Song No.10,11,12 and 13

"GLORY OF HIS FEET DIVINE"

(Thiruvadi Perumai)

Dear seekers of Truth,

Translation of Songs 10, 11, 12  and 13.

 

Song no.10

Lustrous twilight He is and He is crystalline luminescent

Light unparalleled in grosser and in nature He is so subtle,

Other than such lip services, to tell the truth none there is

In the earth or in the sky and so all around anywhere else;

Known it is so only when the tree has ever borne the fruits

Method of bearing or blossoming ever beyond cognizance;

With mere sense of placental bondage, how in the council

I could ever articulate absolute of the Master, oh my maid.

 

Song no.11

 

The striving transcending ocean of quantum, impurity of trine

Casting aside their dross behind and unable to find, the yogis

Wander in the estuary of the sea as mere reed; in the council

Dances He, so that of His state inherent in the council, that too

Transcendent nature of the council divine; within that council

The state inherent in that dance, of all to assert what of state,

Mountain could even be weighed, but impossible to assess so,

Chaffing mere words of emptiness, of what use, oh my maid.

 

Song no.12.

Cosmic flower micro, blissfully blooming, embellishing scent

Dancing in the space of microcosmic centre the divine dance

Of the feet blossom, of the shoes in the feet, of all over them

The divine powder settled or powder of that settled powder

Bloom at the moment reigning all of those above, of his name

Those who had mused, those who heard from bond if freed

Blossoming ever the king of dance, my husband of eternity

Such of His existence who could, you present, oh my maid.

 

Song no. 13

 

Pristine space of elements five, space causal above cause

Space, beyond the fourth state, space of bliss to begin with

Among such of those spaces which of that space to dance

The space of dance, if so ever praising, within that space

As of the absolute infinity and as of ever full of blissful form

Dancing my master, the connoisseur of the dancer of dance

The microcosmic divine feet, of whose truthful state to know

Who is to affirm, whether is it within me, declare, oh my maid.

 

Translation to be continued…

 

With regards

sivajayakumar

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Friday, March 18, 2011

Re: [vallalargroups:4013] Message to Sanmarga sangam

Dear All,
வள்ளளார் காலத்தை கடந்த ஞானி.அவர் எக்காலத்திற்கும் சொன்ன மந்திரம் அருட்பெரும்ஜோதி மந்திரம் .
அதனால் நாம் அதை விட்டு வெளியே வர வேண்டாம்.

வேறு மந்திரம் நமக்கு தேவை இல்லை.

Anbudan,
N.Ganesh

On 3/8/2011 5:27 PM, arumugha arasu.v.t wrote:
என்ன இதெல்லாம்
நமது வள்ளல் பெருமான் நமக்கு அளித்த
அருட்பெரும் ஜோதி மந்திரத்தை விடுத்து
ஏன் வேறு மந்திரங்கள்
இது சன்மார்க்க சிந்தனையாளர்களை
திசை திருப்பவே
அனைவரும் அருட்பெரும்ஜோதி 
மந்திரத்தையே சொல்லுங்கள்
மற்ற எதுவும் பயனற்றவை.

அன்பு சகோதரன்
நக்கினம் சிவம்

On 8 March 2011 10:04, Rudra shiva <lakankamal1983@gmail.com> wrote:
Namaskar,

Dear all,

We have above attached Great message of Arutperum jothi andavar.
World peace and world government will form in very short period and
soon...

If any more details needed, please contact below person in mobile numbers.

With loving regards,

Dr.M.V.M.Muthu Phd., Coimbatore. 094437 20089
Prof. Dr.R.Karthiyasamay Phd., Chennai. 094424 92948
Mr.K.Kamalakannan BA.,BL., Chennai. 095432 55092

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[vallalargroups:4011] Poosam Dates'2011

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[vallalargroups:4014] Light A Candle With SocialKonnekt And Pray For Japan

Hi vallalargroups@googlegroups.com ,

I just light a candle for Japan Victims.
Join us to pray for those who have lost their lives and hope for the best for those who have survived.
It is time to light a candle and Pray...

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Thursday, March 17, 2011

Re: [vallalargroups:4009] Thiruvadi Perumai, Translation

O Blessed Soul, Srinivasan Sivajayakumar,
Greetings for the noble deed of translation of "திருவடிப் புகழ்ச்சி".
பாலு குருசுவாமி.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:27 PM, SRINIVASAN SIVAJAYAKUMAR <ssivajayakumar@gmail.com> wrote:

"GLORY OF HIS FEET DIVINE"

(Thiruvadi Perumai)

Dear seekers of Truth,

Translation of Songs 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

 

Song No.5

 

Reigning throne by name, as lord of the council golden

Up to horizon clad in grosser, my husband married me;

Extolled by prayer of those destined to implore, of wisdom

His constitution glows in light, savage karma dissevering

Mind of whom, mighty hand of abhaya  blesses in grace;

Monarch of the damsel Sivakamavalli, upon His crown

The Ganges in spate, His glory unknown even to Vedas

How of all, I could alone glorify Him, tell me, oh my maid

 

Song No.6

 

Fruits of trinity succulent with their distilled juices mixed

With the sap of sugarcane grown tall and ripe crushed

Blended with milk unadulterated and honey of a bough,

Mixed with raw rice cooked; as if such elixir I too tasted

All my mind resonate again, again with words so sweet

Pronouncing pleasure, the mate of my soul married me;

Dances He in the form of cosmic particles and of whose

Glory am I competent to recount, not at all, oh my maid.

 

Song No.7

Assuming the blissful form of microcosm and the grace

Of dance, dancing with the two feet divine with gracing,

Intellect of the intellectuals devoted in prayerful penance

Germinating in such wisdom, elixir of Shiva with its bliss;

Cosmic form full of divinity far beyond the sound unheard

Transcending the microcosm, if so, the realized recounts,

The macrocosm of the Almighty, splendid king of dance

Such of His glory whether am I to impart, never my maid

 

Song No.8

 

Up to sound unheard progressed Vedas teeming in trillions

Reclined in weariness; the testaments up to sound cosmic

Searching the horizon of wisdom with faces in many phases,

As to the union still are ignorant, the enlightened if so affirms;

Glistening up to feet with ashes white smeared, as of glowing

Assumed as form, dancing the dance of nature in space open

Such wisdom incarnate only to be beheld; of His glory by me

Whether amenable to any expression, tell me, oh my maid

 

Song No.9.

Spreading all the space of the finite, far beyond the finite

Becoming infinite, within that infinite subtle of the subtlest

Beyond the veil in the space divine, the bliss of the blissful

Without dancing, the feet of divinity still sworn as dancing,

Transcending the secret they too declare, we too hear; if so

His virtuosity of my absolute master, the holy king of dance

Spanning the horizon, His shoulders in ashes white; of his

Truthfulness, am I capable to recite, I am not, oh my maid.

 

Translation to be continued…

 

With regards

sivajayakumar

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[vallalargroups:4010] Vallalar photos

Good day to everyone who will read this
I wrote so many times to different sites and e-mails related to Vallalar but nobody is reply. I dont know the reason, probably my English isnt good enough or I do something wrong.

I need this photos to improve article in Wikipedia:

1) House where Saint Ramalingam born.
2) Place of feeding established by Vallalar (Sathya Dharma Salai).
3) Temple of Wisdom establieshed by Ramalinga Swami (Sathya Gnana Sabha).
4) House in Mettukuppam where he lived.
5) Photo of saint Ramalingam himself.

If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. Or please tell WHO can provide me this photos.
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Or please tell me who is the author and owner of copyright of this photos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/113910850422499637372

Thanks in advance...

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[vallalargroups:4008] Thiruvadi Perumai, Translation

"GLORY OF HIS FEET DIVINE"

(Thiruvadi Perumai)

Dear seekers of Truth,

Translation of Songs 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.

 

Song No.5

 

Reigning throne by name, as lord of the council golden

Up to horizon clad in grosser, my husband married me;

Extolled by prayer of those destined to implore, of wisdom

His constitution glows in light, savage karma dissevering

Mind of whom, mighty hand of abhaya  blesses in grace;

Monarch of the damsel Sivakamavalli, upon His crown

The Ganges in spate, His glory unknown even to Vedas

How of all, I could alone glorify Him, tell me, oh my maid

 

Song No.6

 

Fruits of trinity succulent with their distilled juices mixed

With the sap of sugarcane grown tall and ripe crushed

Blended with milk unadulterated and honey of a bough,

Mixed with raw rice cooked; as if such elixir I too tasted

All my mind resonate again, again with words so sweet

Pronouncing pleasure, the mate of my soul married me;

Dances He in the form of cosmic particles and of whose

Glory am I competent to recount, not at all, oh my maid.

 

Song No.7

Assuming the blissful form of microcosm and the grace

Of dance, dancing with the two feet divine with gracing,

Intellect of the intellectuals devoted in prayerful penance

Germinating in such wisdom, elixir of Shiva with its bliss;

Cosmic form full of divinity far beyond the sound unheard

Transcending the microcosm, if so, the realized recounts,

The macrocosm of the Almighty, splendid king of dance

Such of His glory whether am I to impart, never my maid

 

Song No.8

 

Up to sound unheard progressed Vedas teeming in trillions

Reclined in weariness; the testaments up to sound cosmic

Searching the horizon of wisdom with faces in many phases,

As to the union still are ignorant, the enlightened if so affirms;

Glistening up to feet with ashes white smeared, as of glowing

Assumed as form, dancing the dance of nature in space open

Such wisdom incarnate only to be beheld; of His glory by me

Whether amenable to any expression, tell me, oh my maid

 

Song No.9.

Spreading all the space of the finite, far beyond the finite

Becoming infinite, within that infinite subtle of the subtlest

Beyond the veil in the space divine, the bliss of the blissful

Without dancing, the feet of divinity still sworn as dancing,

Transcending the secret they too declare, we too hear; if so

His virtuosity of my absolute master, the holy king of dance

Spanning the horizon, His shoulders in ashes white; of his

Truthfulness, am I capable to recite, I am not, oh my maid.

 

Translation to be continued…

 

With regards

sivajayakumar

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Re: [vallalargroups:4007] One more Doubt on சிவ

ஆன்மாவானது முதன்மையான 10 நாடிகளால் சூழப்பட்டுள்ளது அதிலிருந்து விடுபடுவதற்கான அந்த நாடிகளை ஊனரப்படுவதர்கான கருவியே சிவ மந்திரம். வைராக்கிய மனதாலும் சிறந்த தவத்தாலும் மட்டுமே அவற்றை அறிய முடியும். மனக்கட்டுப்பாடு இல்லாமலும் அதற்கான தகுந்த பத்தியம் இல்லாமலும் அவற்றை அறிவது என்பது குருடன் யானையின் காலை தொட்டுப்பார்த்து இதுதான் யானை என்று கூறியதற்கு ஒப்பானதாகும்

2011/3/14 Balu Guruswamy <balovesfamily@gmail.com>
"சிவ சிவ" - விளக்கம்.
திருப்பராய்த்துறை ஸ்ரீராமகிருஷ்ண தபோவனத்தின் தர்மச் சக்கரம் 
என்ற மாத இதழில், 1988 க்கு முற்பட்ட சமயத்தில், இதன் முழு 
விவரம் கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது.  சுவாமி சித்பவானந்தர் அவர்களால் 
அல்லது அவரது சிஷ்யர்களால் கொடுக்கப்பட்ட விளக்கமாக இருக்கலாம்.  குருவின் திருவடி வணங்கி அவ்விளக்கத்தை யாவரும் 
பயன் பெற கீழே தந்துள்ளோம்.
சிவபிரானுக்குரிய பஞ்சாட்சர மந்திரம்,
"ஸ்தூல", "சூட்சும", "காரண" என மூன்று வகைப்படும்.
"நமச்சிவாய" என்பது ஸ்தூல பஞ்சாட்சரம்.
"சிவாய நம" என்பது சூட்சும பஞ்சாட்சரம்.
"சிவ" என்பது "காரண பஞ்சாட்சரம்"
நாமம் காரண நிலைக்குப் போகப் போக அதற்கு சக்தி அதிகமாகிறது.
எனெவே "சிவ" என்னும் மந்திரத்திற்கு அளப்பரிய சக்தி உண்டு.
அதனை இருமுறை ஜெபிக்கும் போது இன்னும் சக்தி அதிகரிக்கிறது.
இமந்திரத்தை இருமுறை ஜபிக்க வேண்டும் என்பதை திரு மந்திரமும் கூறுகிறது.  அம்மந்திரம் கீழே தரப்பட்டுள்ளது.
"சிவ சிவ என்கிலர் தீவினையாளர்.
சிவ சிவ என்றிடத் தீவினை மாளும்.
சிவ சிவ என்றிடத் தேவருமாவர்.
சிவ சிவ என்னச் சிவகதிதானே".
"சிவ சிவ" என்ற இரண்டடுக்கை இடைவிடாது ஜபிப்பவர் 
சிவ சொருபம் அடைவர் என்பது மேற்கண்ட மந்திரத்தில் 
சொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளது.
பாலு குருசுவாமி. 


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Krishna C kumar <krishnakumar.c.v@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Karthikeyan,

When I started reading Thiruvarutpa, I saw songs where our vallalar says "Siva Siva" so I got the Question. I really can understand your point. But even our Aiyya says we have to understand so I am trying to understand. It is a atomic attempt of an ignorant trying to understand few things. I hope I am not trying something which is wrong. Just I was trying to follow "Meiporul kaanbhadhu arivu". Even if it is from Gnani, I think it would be good to understand. It's my smallest thought from this smallest dust.

Thank you.

With Everlasting Love,

Krishna C.

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Re: [vallalargroups:4006] One more Doubt on சிவ

there is a book published in the name of Panchatchara Vilakkam in 30's
if you are able to get it you can go thro it. it gives a detail
explanation.

2011/3/14 Balu Guruswamy <balovesfamily@gmail.com>:
> "சிவ சிவ" - விளக்கம்.
> திருப்பராய்த்துறை ஸ்ரீராமகிருஷ்ண தபோவனத்தின் தர்மச் சக்கரம்
> என்ற மாத இதழில், 1988 க்கு முற்பட்ட சமயத்தில், இதன் முழு
> விவரம் கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது.  சுவாமி சித்பவானந்தர் அவர்களால்
> அல்லது அவரது சிஷ்யர்களால் கொடுக்கப்பட்ட விளக்கமாக இருக்கலாம்.  குருவின்
> திருவடி வணங்கி அவ்விளக்கத்தை யாவரும்
> பயன் பெற கீழே தந்துள்ளோம்.
> சிவபிரானுக்குரிய பஞ்சாட்சர மந்திரம்,
> "ஸ்தூல", "சூட்சும", "காரண" என மூன்று வகைப்படும்.
> "நமச்சிவாய" என்பது ஸ்தூல பஞ்சாட்சரம்.
> "சிவாய நம" என்பது சூட்சும பஞ்சாட்சரம்.
> "சிவ" என்பது "காரண பஞ்சாட்சரம்"
> நாமம் காரண நிலைக்குப் போகப் போக அதற்கு சக்தி அதிகமாகிறது.
> எனெவே "சிவ" என்னும் மந்திரத்திற்கு அளப்பரிய சக்தி உண்டு.
> அதனை இருமுறை ஜெபிக்கும் போது இன்னும் சக்தி அதிகரிக்கிறது.
> இமந்திரத்தை இருமுறை ஜபிக்க வேண்டும் என்பதை திரு மந்திரமும் கூறுகிறது.
>  அம்மந்திரம் கீழே தரப்பட்டுள்ளது.
> "சிவ சிவ என்கிலர் தீவினையாளர்.
> சிவ சிவ என்றிடத் தீவினை மாளும்.
> சிவ சிவ என்றிடத் தேவருமாவர்.
> சிவ சிவ என்னச் சிவகதிதானே".
> "சிவ சிவ" என்ற இரண்டடுக்கை இடைவிடாது ஜபிப்பவர்
> சிவ சொருபம் அடைவர் என்பது மேற்கண்ட மந்திரத்தில்
> சொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளது.
> பாலு குருசுவாமி.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Krishna C kumar
> <krishnakumar.c.v@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Karthikeyan,
>>
>> When I started reading Thiruvarutpa, I saw songs where our vallalar says
>> "Siva Siva" so I got the Question. I really can understand your point. But
>> even our Aiyya says we have to understand so I am trying to understand. It
>> is a atomic attempt of an ignorant trying to understand few things. I hope I
>> am not trying something which is wrong. Just I was trying to follow
>> "Meiporul kaanbhadhu arivu". Even if it is from Gnani, I think it would be
>> good to understand. It's my smallest thought from this smallest dust.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> With Everlasting Love,
>> Krishna C.
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Re: [vallalargroups:4004] Thiruvadi Perumai, Songs No.1,2,3 and 4

Wonderful Job ayya...

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:55 AM, SRINIVASAN SIVAJAYAKUMAR <ssivajayakumar@gmail.com> wrote:

"GLORY OF HIS FEET DIVINE"

(Thiruvadi Perumai)

Dear seekers of Truth,

Vallalar has declared that the experience of the soul is the natural truth resulting in excellence of life. The experience of the soul ought to be ultimate quest of the devotees of Vallalar. In order to understand the philosophy of Vallalar, it is not obligatory on our part even to have an atom of experience as to what the Saint says. But it is mandatory that we ought to have an atom of faith in what he says as his experience if we are to walk close on the heels of Saint Vallalar who still strives to lead us on a path paved by him for us in absolute compassion to become aware of the Divine Feet in all its glory.

 

In the beginning, the composite collection was named as

 

"Bliss beyond any Measure"

and then, as

"Garland of Philosophy"

and now, as

"Glory of His Feet Divine"

 

The composition as such comprises of 45 songs which contain the universal essence. The method of cosmic creation explained in these songs is still unknown to the scientists of today. Therefore, Vallalar is to be regarded as the supreme scientist. This aspect is being dealt with very elaborately in the forthcoming research paper "Grand Unification Theory".

 

The process of translation adopted herein is different from the much trodden path of translation in freedom and verbatim. By his grace, we have become fortunate and we are permitted access to see from a distance his thought form which is at the height of illumination displayed in a flaming rapturous union with the Almighty unalloyed by any linguistic limitation. From the essence of such thoughtful rapture, these lines within the limited capacity of an insignificant mind are drawn by his grace somehow to match the mount of ascension attained by the Saint. The devotees are at liberty to fill up the crevices in the flow wherever occurs in this translation with your thoughts sprouting at the moment to substitute the rendering more meaningful and creative to experience the craving of the soul to grasp HIS FEET with the guidance presented in the guise of the wonderful lines of illumination of Saint Ramalinga Vallalar.

 

It is proposed to release every week some songs:

 

Song No.1


Dancing in the golden council, graceful, prime of Supreme,

Monarch of the pantheon blessed me with a garland divine

Being the form, becoming the formless, all the light and space

Excelling in all, has become the mate of my soul, of His own

Truthfulness, a grain of His grandeur could ever be assessed

All of Vedas praising the sole of Him are to shrink if to praise

On my part without any effort blessed I was, how to express

How bliss immeasurable springs beyond words, oh my maid.

 

Song no.2.


Graceful ever by his wonderful act in the golden common

His blissful stature, I am too insignificant within his kingdom

From my state of ignorance, He salvaged and married me

His majesty, whether anyone else could recite His greatness

Testaments of higher degrees, the great Vedas altogether

Mortally are afraid, oh maid, as of my mind's measure now

I'm to attain illumination, to tell simply very few on that day

What to perform to make these imprinted within, oh my maid.

 

 

 

Song no.3.


Whether He is the mount of coral red, or the light of ruby,

Intense effulgent special spark or quantum red aggregated

Reclining horizontal with his consort in the lotus, Brahma

Siva and five of elements and others who too stand beyond

Extolling His form wonder as to what of His physical state,

Themselves if so to aver, His subtle state who to comment

Transmuting into Him, He married me on that day, of golden

Council, its master, how to declare His glory, oh my maid

 

Song no.4,


Whether the gods, adepts, the accomplished while living

Leaders of the aspirants, those having beheld the essence

Persons of trinity or of the six, the potential of the primordial,

Our presiding husband's state of reality by those realized

None of them competent, how I could realize and proclaim

Whether feasible, see it, not even to the remotest possibility

Dancing in the golden council before the prayerful devotees

His own glory by any means He only knows, oh my maid.

 

 

Translation to be continued…

 

With regards

sivajayakumar

                                                                    

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Re: [vallalargroups:4003] Thiruvadi Perumai, Songs No.1,2,3 and 4

Dear Sir,

Very Happy to see translated version of "Thiruvadi Perumai"....

Plz Continue ...

Thanks,
Karthikeyan


On 15 March 2011 07:25, SRINIVASAN SIVAJAYAKUMAR <ssivajayakumar@gmail.com> wrote:

"GLORY OF HIS FEET DIVINE"

(Thiruvadi Perumai)

Dear seekers of Truth,

Vallalar has declared that the experience of the soul is the natural truth resulting in excellence of life. The experience of the soul ought to be ultimate quest of the devotees of Vallalar. In order to understand the philosophy of Vallalar, it is not obligatory on our part even to have an atom of experience as to what the Saint says. But it is mandatory that we ought to have an atom of faith in what he says as his experience if we are to walk close on the heels of Saint Vallalar who still strives to lead us on a path paved by him for us in absolute compassion to become aware of the Divine Feet in all its glory.

 

In the beginning, the composite collection was named as

 

"Bliss beyond any Measure"

and then, as

"Garland of Philosophy"

and now, as

"Glory of His Feet Divine"

 

The composition as such comprises of 45 songs which contain the universal essence. The method of cosmic creation explained in these songs is still unknown to the scientists of today. Therefore, Vallalar is to be regarded as the supreme scientist. This aspect is being dealt with very elaborately in the forthcoming research paper "Grand Unification Theory".

 

The process of translation adopted herein is different from the much trodden path of translation in freedom and verbatim. By his grace, we have become fortunate and we are permitted access to see from a distance his thought form which is at the height of illumination displayed in a flaming rapturous union with the Almighty unalloyed by any linguistic limitation. From the essence of such thoughtful rapture, these lines within the limited capacity of an insignificant mind are drawn by his grace somehow to match the mount of ascension attained by the Saint. The devotees are at liberty to fill up the crevices in the flow wherever occurs in this translation with your thoughts sprouting at the moment to substitute the rendering more meaningful and creative to experience the craving of the soul to grasp HIS FEET with the guidance presented in the guise of the wonderful lines of illumination of Saint Ramalinga Vallalar.

 

It is proposed to release every week some songs:

 

Song No.1


Dancing in the golden council, graceful, prime of Supreme,

Monarch of the pantheon blessed me with a garland divine

Being the form, becoming the formless, all the light and space

Excelling in all, has become the mate of my soul, of His own

Truthfulness, a grain of His grandeur could ever be assessed

All of Vedas praising the sole of Him are to shrink if to praise

On my part without any effort blessed I was, how to express

How bliss immeasurable springs beyond words, oh my maid.

 

Song no.2.


Graceful ever by his wonderful act in the golden common

His blissful stature, I am too insignificant within his kingdom

From my state of ignorance, He salvaged and married me

His majesty, whether anyone else could recite His greatness

Testaments of higher degrees, the great Vedas altogether

Mortally are afraid, oh maid, as of my mind's measure now

I'm to attain illumination, to tell simply very few on that day

What to perform to make these imprinted within, oh my maid.

 

 

 

Song no.3.


Whether He is the mount of coral red, or the light of ruby,

Intense effulgent special spark or quantum red aggregated

Reclining horizontal with his consort in the lotus, Brahma

Siva and five of elements and others who too stand beyond

Extolling His form wonder as to what of His physical state,

Themselves if so to aver, His subtle state who to comment

Transmuting into Him, He married me on that day, of golden

Council, its master, how to declare His glory, oh my maid

 

Song no.4,


Whether the gods, adepts, the accomplished while living

Leaders of the aspirants, those having beheld the essence

Persons of trinity or of the six, the potential of the primordial,

Our presiding husband's state of reality by those realized

None of them competent, how I could realize and proclaim

Whether feasible, see it, not even to the remotest possibility

Dancing in the golden council before the prayerful devotees

His own glory by any means He only knows, oh my maid.

 

 

Translation to be continued…

 

With regards

sivajayakumar

                                                                    

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