Monday, September 29, 2008

[vallalargroups:747] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

Hello Mr.Sivaraman,
'
'
Clearly understood the concept, If possible can you clear my doubt ?
'
It's about, human beings like us everybody wishes are not common, but some wishes to go into knowledge
way (Gnana Margam, Aanmiga Margam). For example if a human being (male / female) wishes to get
the deathless body (Maranamilla PerumVazhvu).
 
He/She is following the way which Vallalar says, the steps/ path way to deathless body. For Vallalar dhayavu takes
12 years to attain the stage.
 
During the practising period, if suppose death causes to he/she ? What will happen ? What stage they will be ?
Whether he/she will birth again? If so happen mean which birth will occur (grass, tree, human, etc. . .) ?
 
I wrong please correct me !
 
 
Thanks & Regards,

Saravanan MC
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2008/9/26 sivaraman duraivelu <shivy27@gmail.com>
Sir,

The very purpose of human birth  is to reach the next stage in the  evolution cycle. i.e. as was mentioned in St. Manikkavasagar's " Sivapuranam"    our birth stages are as follows: Grass, worm, tree, bird, snake, stone, human being, spirit, ganagalai, val asuraraagi, saint and devar.  (Please read Sivapuranam for exact wordings)

we came across all the above mentioned births and  reached this human birth,  from human being we have to reach god.  This is also symbolically mentioned in Mahabaratha as Dasa Avatharam of Lord Vishnu which is nothing but evolution theory. 

Purpose of human birth is to come out of  this birth and death cycle of our soul according to our good and bad deeds and  reach god but, for this purpose we have to do sadhana like St. Vallalar told in his scriptures chanting the Lords name, meditating, etc.,

Note:  We all of us reached this human shape after crossing various living beings, in millions of years, so we should not waste this birth, we have to utilise this rare human birth to reach the next stage of evolution. This is what our saints Practised, preached and attained.

With regards

sivaraman
chennai








 

2008/9/26 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


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To: "senthil.theone@gmail.com" <senthil.theone@gmail.com>
Cc: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi senthil ,

                I have few doubts with your answer.

 

"First forget about what we are going to attain"

 

People say this statement because of two reasons.

1.       They really don't know what they are going to attain. In other words we don't know what is truth.

2.        And one more reason is there is nothing there to attain. Everything is there with you and within you. You need to find  it.

 

(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)

 

These basic purpose of praying, reading and meditating it to make a man thoughtless. But when you do this you can't be thoughtless rather you will get the thought of divine. Its like "There is a wall in which several posters are being pasted, in order to avoid it they will put a board 'stick no bills'. This 'stick no bills' itself an advertisement which helps us to stop other advertisement. " Like that in order to stop our worldy thoughts, people made us to read books and asked as to pray.

 

And regarding food, there is a fact 'you are what you eat'. Your food affects your character. So people are made to eat satvic food. If you eat any meat, you will be affected by the thoughts of that meat. In order to get rid of this, people are made to eat veg food.

It is impossible for human to blindly trust on anything. We should use the power of discrimination. Then only we will get maturity which comes by means of right understanding. At the same time, when you read and imitate as what is said in books, you are losing your individuality, your uniqueness. Everything is unique, vallalar is unique, ramana maharishi is unique and every one…

 

This is my opinion, I am sorry if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Raja.B


With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J


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Saturday, September 27, 2008

[vallalargroups:744] Re:

Dear Saravanan
 
Please refer FOUR PURSOTHAMS in Urainadi.

Unni
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2008/9/24 Saravanan MC <saravanan.mc@gmail.com>
Dear Manohar,
 
It's my opinion, if I wrong please correct me anyone.
 
"Thayavu" can give you anything.
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2008/9/17 vallalar vallalar <deathlessbody2004@yahoo.co.in>

Dear Vallalar Followers,

How to get MARANAMILLA PERUVAZHVU - VALLALAR SAYS - REF THIRU ARUTPA.
(DEATHLESS BODY)

Please explain in detail.

Thanks,

K.MANOHAR.
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[vallalargroups:745] Re:

Dear Mr. Manohar
 
You have rightly spotted the core concept of Thiru Arut Prakasa Vallar.
 
First are we rightly qualified for knowing the answer?
if you go thorugh book " MANUMURAI KANDA VASAKAM" we will agree that couple of mistakes we might have done.
 
HoweverThiru Arut Prakasa Vallar states that " ENKAU THIRIVAKA VANDUVATHAI ANDAVAR THAKA NARATHILL THIRIVATHAR"
 
 
 
  "VINDAVAR KANDATHILLAI ,KANDVAR VINDATHILLAI"
 

 Any comments please post
 
 
 
thanks
Unni
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2008/9/17 vallalar vallalar <deathlessbody2004@yahoo.co.in>

Dear Vallalar Followers,

How to get MARANAMILLA PERUVAZHVU - VALLALAR SAYS - REF THIRU ARUTPA.
(DEATHLESS BODY)

Please explain in detail.

Thanks,

K.MANOHAR.
98414 50782
EMAIL - deathlessbody2004@yahoo.co.in





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Friday, September 26, 2008

[vallalargroups:746] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

Sir,

The very purpose of human birth  is to reach the next stage in the  evolution cycle. i.e. as was mentioned in St. Manikkavasagar's " Sivapuranam"    our birth stages are as follows: Grass, worm, tree, bird, snake, stone, human being, spirit, ganagalai, val asuraraagi, saint and devar.  (Please read Sivapuranam for exact wordings)

we came across all the above mentioned births and  reached this human birth,  from human being we have to reach god.  This is also symbolically mentioned in Mahabaratha as Dasa Avatharam of Lord Vishnu which is nothing but evolution theory. 

Purpose of human birth is to come out of  this birth and death cycle of our soul according to our good and bad deeds and  reach god but, for this purpose we have to do sadhana like St. Vallalar told in his scriptures chanting the Lords name, meditating, etc.,

Note:  We all of us reached this human shape after crossing various living beings, in millions of years, so we should not waste this birth, we have to utilise this rare human birth to reach the next stage of evolution. This is what our saints Practised, preached and attained.

With regards

sivaraman
chennai








 

2008/9/26 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


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From: Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy <Raja_Samy@infosys.com>
Date: 2008/9/25
Subject: RE: [vallalargroups:737] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?
To: "senthil.theone@gmail.com" <senthil.theone@gmail.com>
Cc: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi senthil ,

                I have few doubts with your answer.

 

"First forget about what we are going to attain"

 

People say this statement because of two reasons.

1.       They really don't know what they are going to attain. In other words we don't know what is truth.

2.        And one more reason is there is nothing there to attain. Everything is there with you and within you. You need to find  it.

 

(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)

 

These basic purpose of praying, reading and meditating it to make a man thoughtless. But when you do this you can't be thoughtless rather you will get the thought of divine. Its like "There is a wall in which several posters are being pasted, in order to avoid it they will put a board 'stick no bills'. This 'stick no bills' itself an advertisement which helps us to stop other advertisement. " Like that in order to stop our worldy thoughts, people made us to read books and asked as to pray.

 

And regarding food, there is a fact 'you are what you eat'. Your food affects your character. So people are made to eat satvic food. If you eat any meat, you will be affected by the thoughts of that meat. In order to get rid of this, people are made to eat veg food.

It is impossible for human to blindly trust on anything. We should use the power of discrimination. Then only we will get maturity which comes by means of right understanding. At the same time, when you read and imitate as what is said in books, you are losing your individuality, your uniqueness. Everything is unique, vallalar is unique, ramana maharishi is unique and every one…

 

This is my opinion, I am sorry if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Raja.B


With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J


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[vallalargroups:743] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?



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Date: 2008/9/25
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To: "senthil.theone@gmail.com" <senthil.theone@gmail.com>
Cc: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi senthil ,

                I have few doubts with your answer.

 

"First forget about what we are going to attain"

 

People say this statement because of two reasons.

1.       They really don't know what they are going to attain. In other words we don't know what is truth.

2.        And one more reason is there is nothing there to attain. Everything is there with you and within you. You need to find  it.

 

(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)

 

These basic purpose of praying, reading and meditating it to make a man thoughtless. But when you do this you can't be thoughtless rather you will get the thought of divine. Its like "There is a wall in which several posters are being pasted, in order to avoid it they will put a board 'stick no bills'. This 'stick no bills' itself an advertisement which helps us to stop other advertisement. " Like that in order to stop our worldy thoughts, people made us to read books and asked as to pray.

 

And regarding food, there is a fact 'you are what you eat'. Your food affects your character. So people are made to eat satvic food. If you eat any meat, you will be affected by the thoughts of that meat. In order to get rid of this, people are made to eat veg food.

It is impossible for human to blindly trust on anything. We should use the power of discrimination. Then only we will get maturity which comes by means of right understanding. At the same time, when you read and imitate as what is said in books, you are losing your individuality, your uniqueness. Everything is unique, vallalar is unique, ramana maharishi is unique and every one…

 

This is my opinion, I am sorry if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Raja.B


With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008

[vallalargroups:741] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 
Happy to have seen Anbar Senthil's reply. Yes. In Gnana margam we have to tread the path shown by the greatest saint Vallalar who has no parallel in showering Anbu and Dhayavu on all living beings. True, one has to practise the tenets of Vallalar and in course of time the God within us will guide us to the path of Gnanam. As he says we have to practise sincerely and the Truth will unfold gradually. In these days of degenerated socities and materialistic values ,we have to keep ourselves away from the maddenning crowd and practise what Vallalar has very kindly taught us with motherly love. I am sure many devotees of Vallalar initiated newly will have such nagging questions in their mind. I would request experienced Sanmargees to guide them.
Willing to send replies
Anbudan
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2008/9/23 senthil kumar <senthil.theone@gmail.com>
Hi Raja,
 
Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?
 
 
My thought on your question is....
 
First forget about what we are going to attain??? If you think that by doing meditation you will get this and that then you will not be able to feel even what is meditation is???? It is to experience. It is to feel. 
 
(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..) -- Dont doubt these great things. Simply Trust...Have a trust dont ever doubt.....With wholehearted if you have practiced these things you would have not asked this question.
 
Practice it,,,very soon you come to know, your questions will be cleared/answered by your own experience on Meditation.Existence will clear all your doubts then and then.
 
Thanks,
 
Senthil Kumar Packirisamy


On 9/23/08, Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com> wrote:


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Hi karthik anna,

 

            Thanks for the answers to my questions. It was really happy to see answers from our group members. Thanks to everyone.

 

            Here is my another question.

 

            What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 

            In other words

 

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

 

If there is any wrong in my question, please apologize.. I am a spiritual illiterate who is seeking for true knowledge.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Raja.B


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[vallalargroups:742] Re:

Dear Manohar,
 
It's my opinion, if I wrong please correct me anyone.
 
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Saravanan MC
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2008/9/17 vallalar vallalar <deathlessbody2004@yahoo.co.in>

Dear Vallalar Followers,

How to get MARANAMILLA PERUVAZHVU - VALLALAR SAYS - REF THIRU ARUTPA.
(DEATHLESS BODY)

Please explain in detail.

Thanks,

K.MANOHAR.
98414 50782
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[vallalargroups:739] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?


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Wow!! Fantastic answer Mr.senthil kumar.

 i want share to u all which i felf

 Even same question  arrised to me few months bk also i thought of asking this to u and forgot  to ask .just believe me i just continued to  reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and  poor feeding daily so on, i didnot get these kind of thinking after that  by அருட்பெருஞ்ஜோதி  Andavar ..if u belive அருட்பெருஞ்ஜோதி  Andavar truly, he will give the all the answer by U MR.RAJA. THATS HIS POWER  and i am really very happy to give this info to u all that அருட்பெருஞ்ஜோதி  Andavar given me such a wonderful chance to asking this question by mr.raja..answered  by Mr.senthil kumar. this is exmpl.,of his power. as mr.sentil said

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Hi Raja,
 
Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?
 
 
My thought on your question is....
 
First forget about what we are going to attain??? If you think that by doing meditation you will get this and that then you will not be able to feel even what is meditation is???? It is to experience. It is to feel.
 
(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..) -- Dont doubt these great things. Simply Trust...Have a trust dont ever doubt.....With wholehearted if you have practiced these things you would have not asked this question.
 
Practice it,,,very soon you come to know, your questions will be cleared/answered by your own experience on Meditation.Existence will clear all your doubts then and then.
 
Thanks,
 
Senthil Kumar Packirisamy


On 9/23/08, Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com> wrote:


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From: Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy
Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Subject: my next question
To: Karthikeyan J <
karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>

Hi karthik anna,

 

            Thanks for the answers to my questions. It was really happy to see answers from our group members. Thanks to everyone.

 

            Here is my another question.

 

            What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 

            In other words

 

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

 

If there is any wrong in my question, please apologize.. I am a spiritual illiterate who is seeking for true knowledge.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Raja.B


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[vallalargroups:753] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

I am presenting my openion here below with reference to my experience......................

The whole creation is started from a single origin, which we can call as Adi Brahman.
The state of origin is Awyaktha  or Non-expressive.
From that state the whole of creation is done.
That clearly indicates that the creation as different , Galaxies , stars , planets, elements and life can be defined as siblings.
Mind is developed in human beings through which we started thinking about our origin.
First of all we noticed that we are different from the creator, even though there is no difference between these.
With that thought several methods were tried to find the origin both spiritually and scientifically.
For scientific search certain technical back ground is necessary to identify and prove the truth.
Where as spiritual growth does not need any of such back grounds.
A simple belief is enough to lead one to move forward.
In this Bhakthi yoga, prayers, Gnana yoga, Dhyan yoga are different methods to achieve the goal, in which people started feeling peace.
When started doing meditation, realized that one can travel in ( Antar mukh ) so that many embedded truths are revealed to human conscious and realized that even outter travel or Bhaya mukh is also possible with meditation.
With these two methods one realized that The whole physical body is a representative of the whole creation and every thing is with in this body it self.
Then the practicner realized that we are energy bodies enclosed in physical bodies.
Many energy centres are invloved in proper functioning of all the bodies and some external source is flowing into our bodies and it is controlling every thing.
Further realized that one can do astral travel, or visualize many past, present and future incidents, while pracicing meditation.
So by this method one can realize the origin or the prime crator.
All animals are also like human beings which have conscious , mind  and every hing and they were also created from the same source.
Hence eating and killing animals , disturb their natural progress process which make us to carry bad karma.
Bad karma cause some pain and unhappy ness.
If being an vegetarian one can avoid such negative energies into our bodies sothat can lead peaceful life before achiveing the final goal.
Thank you all,
Ganesh B V

2008/9/23 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


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Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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To: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi karthik anna,

 

            Thanks for the answers to my questions. It was really happy to see answers from our group members. Thanks to everyone.

 

            Here is my another question.

 

            What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 

            In other words

 

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

 

If there is any wrong in my question, please apologize.. I am a spiritual illiterate who is seeking for true knowledge.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Raja.B


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Tuesday, September 23, 2008

[vallalargroups:738] East Tambaram Vallalaar Sabai.. Tomorrow Poosam Function

Dear Sanmarkees,


Tomorrow, is a POOSAM Day. so, Around Tambaram people come at
East Tambaram Vallalaar Sabai.


Programs.

Evening From 5 P.M Read Thiruvarutpa Agaval.

7 P. M Jyothi Valipadu..also,
Pasiyattuvithal.


so, Nearest Vallalaar anbargal, come to East Tambaram Sanmarga
sangam,.

Address :
Vallalaar sanmarga Sangam,
No.8, 4th Street, Anandapuram,
East Tambaram,Chennai-59.

Route :
Near Tambaram Airforce Road, or

Backside of Madras christian College.

Near Pizza Corner






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[vallalargroups:737] Re: my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

Hi Raja,
 
Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?
 
 
My thought on your question is....
 
First forget about what we are going to attain??? If you think that by doing meditation you will get this and that then you will not be able to feel even what is meditation is???? It is to experience. It is to feel. 
 
(like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..) -- Dont doubt these great things. Simply Trust...Have a trust dont ever doubt.....With wholehearted if you have practiced these things you would have not asked this question.
 
Practice it,,,very soon you come to know, your questions will be cleared/answered by your own experience on Meditation.Existence will clear all your doubts then and then.
 
Thanks,
 
Senthil Kumar Packirisamy


On 9/23/08, Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy
Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Subject: my next question
To: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi karthik anna,

 

            Thanks for the answers to my questions. It was really happy to see answers from our group members. Thanks to everyone.

 

            Here is my another question.

 

            What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 

            In other words

 

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

 

If there is any wrong in my question, please apologize.. I am a spiritual illiterate who is seeking for true knowledge.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Raja.B


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[vallalargroups:736] Re: audio file playing to help maha mandhiram chanting by members in everyday prayer from 1 st oct

Sir,

At the outset I wish to thank u for your efforts in attaching Mahamandira audio files.   This prayer can be chanted by all Sanmarga devotees at a fixed time in the morning and evening three times. i.e. at 6.00 a.m. and 6.00 p.m. what ever work we are doing & wherever we are,  we can spare two minutes for this prayer.  Group prayer is very powerful as mentioned in our spiritual texts and siddars. If this groupprayer of Mahamandira is propagated globally it will have tremendous effect on the Universe and peace and deathless body can be achieved by all with the blessing of  St.Vallalar.

With regards
sivaraman
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2008/9/23 veda puri <vedapuris@yahoo.com>




members are suggesting to start group prayer from 1 st oct by chanting ARUTPRUGNJODHI MAHA MANDHIRAM early morning and/or evening.This maha mandhiram chanting is sent to all group members in the form of audio file frequently by Vallalar Groups.Hope all members have downloaded this and use.  The same can be palayed by individuals in their respective places/homes during the proposed time and join chanting along withis audio CHANTING.  THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE COMPUTERS CAN COPY IN A CD OR TAPE AND PLAY.This is only a suggestion.If individuals cannot do this by themselves they can get it done through their friends/vallalar group members.vallalar anbudan
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[vallalargroups:735] my next question : What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?



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From: Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy
Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Subject: my next question
To: Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>


Hi karthik anna,

 

            Thanks for the answers to my questions. It was really happy to see answers from our group members. Thanks to everyone.

 

            Here is my another question.

 

            What is the primary purpose of doing all these sadhana (spiritual practice) ?

 

            In other words

 

Why we should do these type of spiritual practice (like praying, reading thiruvasagam, meditating, eating veg food and so on..)? What is the thing that we are going to attain?

 

If there is any wrong in my question, please apologize.. I am a spiritual illiterate who is seeking for true knowledge.

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Raja.B


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[vallalargroups:734] Next Arul purna siddhe yogam - Function Details @ Rajapalayam



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arul purna siddhe yogam



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[vallalargroups:733] audio file playing to help maha mandhiram chanting by members in everyday prayer from 1 st oct



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Monday, September 22, 2008

[vallalargroups:732] EGO and Confidence


Iyya Thunai.

Sanmargam vali sellum anbargale, Vanakkam.

Ego & Confidence - karuthukalai kandaen.

Just want to share my point of view on the same.
Please forgive and guide me if my vision is wrong.

TO FEEL WHAT IS EGO AND CONFIDENCE.

Ottrumaiyil wayttrumai kandal - yaan enkindra aanava pei thalai virithu aadum. Anbu yennum oli maraindhu vidum
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DEAR KARTHI SIR,
 
SEND THIS LINK TO VALLALAR GROUP FRIENDS.
 
This link is helpful to tamil typing
 
example:
 
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On 18/09/2008, Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com> wrote:
Inbutru Vazga
Dear Siva,

In our vallalar groups most people are english readers...

while sending message please send both english and tamil...

for tamil typing..
http://quillpad.com/tamil/  this is an online editor

anbudan
karthikeyan

2008/9/18 siva pandiyan <siva6022@gmail.com>
Dear Thiru.kalaimani,
                                Thirumandiram says: Kondrilarai kola seyya thoondinar,thindrilarai thina solli thendiththar,panriyai padiyil piranthu el naragil onedruvaar aran aanai ithu unmaiye.
In the sam thirukkural in the topic arul one more stanza, kollanai pirithu oon unbanai lai koopi ella uyirlaum tholum as like a kural is there.If anybody let me know how to write in tamil in g mail it will help me to write in tamil itself.
Karunaiyyum sivame ena -Arutpa,Anbum sivamum -thirumandiram,Irakkam udaiore peru pettrore -Bible without took pity on other creatures nobody cannot say they attain some experience regarding gods grace.
Anbudan,

Siva.

2008/9/17 P Sujatha Rajashree <aruljothisujatha@gmail.com>

THANKYOU SENT YOUR GOOD THIRUKURAL MESSAGE.
Dear Kalaimani,

தன் ஊன்  பெருக்கற்க்கு  தான்பிறிது   ஊன்
உண்பான் எங்ஙனம்  ஆளும்
அருள்.  - Thirukural

In Thirukural, If the person eating non-veg , he would not get the god's grace . This is 100%  sure..

Vallalar is stating, even people should not think to eat....

We should always think  "Ella Uyirgalum Inbutru Valga"

Anbudan,
Karthikeyan



2008/9/15 <G.kalaimani@airtel.in>
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Thanks Karthik .Very good Examples.

My
 Question is :
Few Vallalar members are very much grace about ANDAVAR. but they still continuing the Non-Veg Food .Will they get Grace really from vallalar ? if yes/no  how? plz clarify.


Vallal Malaradi Vazhga Vazhga!!

Ella Uyirgalum Enbuttru Vazhga!!.


With Warm Regards,
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Dear Raja,

Ego - If we think we are doing all the things means "EGO" is mixing in our activity
Example :
I am giving food to poor people..."EGO Mixing"

Confidence : If we think,
by God's Grace , I will do all things... this is real confidence ...
Example :
By God's Grace I am giivng Food to poor People.. Even If it is not now, Surely God will make me to give...  "Grace Mixing"

others answers also welcome

Anbudan
Karthikeyan

2008/9/12 Karthikeyan J <
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Inbutru Vazga!!!!

Dear Friends

Next Sath-Vichara Question from Th.Raja...,


What is the difference between "
EGO" and "CONFIDENCE"?

Answers are welcome any one of the references( thiru-arutpa / thiru-mandiram / thiru-vasagam / thiru-kural / gnanigal )

Anbudan
Karthikeyan


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2008/9/10 Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy <
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Thanks anna..

 

Yet another question:

 

What is the difference between EGO and CONFIDENCE?

 

 

With love

Raja.B


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Saturday, September 20, 2008

[vallalargroups:731] Re: Online tamil Editor to type message in Tamil/Telgu/kannada/hindi/malayalam etc...

Respected Manivannan Ganesan,
 
Thanks for your information.
It is of great use.
I was typing in english hence forth i will type in Tamil.


 
2008/9/18 Manivannan Ganesan <manig78@gmail.com>
 
 
DEAR KARTHI SIR,
 
SEND THIS LINK TO VALLALAR GROUP FRIENDS.
 
This link is helpful to tamil typing
 
example:
 
we type "vallalar" link converted into "வள்ளலார் "
 
 
 
 
above link is very useful to share the information.......
 
 
regards,
 
MANIVANNAN.G.
PALLIKONDA.
 


 
On 18/09/2008, Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com> wrote:
Inbutru Vazga
Dear Siva,

In our vallalar groups most people are english readers...

while sending message please send both english and tamil...

for tamil typing.. http://quillpad.com/tamil/  this is an online editor

anbudan
karthikeyan

2008/9/18 siva pandiyan <siva6022@gmail.com>
Dear Thiru.kalaimani,
                                Thirumandiram says: Kondrilarai kola seyya thoondinar,thindrilarai thina solli thendiththar,panriyai padiyil piranthu el naragil onedruvaar aran aanai ithu unmaiye.
In the sam thirukkural in the topic arul one more stanza, kollanai pirithu oon unbanai lai koopi ella uyirlaum tholum as like a kural is there.If anybody let me know how to write in tamil in g mail it will help me to write in tamil itself.
Karunaiyyum sivame ena -Arutpa,Anbum sivamum -thirumandiram,Irakkam udaiore peru pettrore -Bible without took pity on other creatures nobody cannot say they attain some experience regarding gods grace.
Anbudan,
Siva.
 
2008/9/17 P Sujatha Rajashree <aruljothisujatha@gmail.com>

THANKYOU SENT YOUR GOOD THIRUKURAL MESSAGE.
Dear Kalaimani,

தன் ஊன்  பெருக்கற்க்கு  தான்பிறிது   ஊன்
உண்பான் எங்ஙனம்  ஆளும்அருள்.  - Thirukural

In Thirukural, If the person eating non-veg , he would not get the god's grace . This is 100%  sure..

Vallalar is stating, even people should not think to eat....

We should always think  "Ella Uyirgalum Inbutru Valga"

Anbudan,
Karthikeyan




2008/9/15 <G.kalaimani@airtel.in>

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Thanks Karthik .Very good Examples.

 My  Question is :
 Few Vallalar members are very much grace about ANDAVAR. but they still continuing the Non-Veg Food .Will they get Grace really from vallalar ? if yes/no  how? plz clarify.

Vallal Malaradi Vazhga Vazhga!!
 Ella Uyirgalum Enbuttru Vazhga!!.


With Warm Regards,
       KALAI





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Inbutru Vazga

Dear Raja,

Ego - If we think we are doing all the things means "EGO" is mixing in our activity
Example :
I am giving food to poor people..."EGO Mixing"

Confidence : If we think,
by God's Grace , I will do all things... this is real confidence ...
Example :
By God's Grace I am giivng Food to poor People.. Even If it is not now, Surely God will make me to give...  "Grace Mixing"

others answers also welcome

Anbudan
Karthikeyan

2008/9/12 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>
Inbutru Vazga!!!!

Dear Friends

Next Sath-Vichara Question from Th.Raja...,

What is the difference between "
EGO" and "CONFIDENCE"?

Answers are welcome any one of the references( thiru-arutpa / thiru-mandiram / thiru-vasagam / thiru-kural / gnanigal )

Anbudan
Karthikeyan

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2008/9/10 Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy <Raja_Samy@infosys.com>
Thanks anna..

 

Yet another question:

 

What is the difference between EGO and CONFIDENCE?

 

 

With love

Raja.B


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With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J

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With KindRegards,
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Friday, September 19, 2008

[vallalargroups:730] Re: Answer -- What is the difference between "EGO" and "CONFIDENCE"?

As a Sanmargee, the first step towards the the path of Gnanam is to abhor eating meat. It is impossible to imagine a devotee of Vallalar to practice meat eating. When all the living beings are children of God will anyone kill his own family member and eat him too?
 
Vallalar exhorts us to wean away the meat eaters somehow to the path of vegetarianism.Kindly do it to your friends.
 
Anbudan
sukumar
2008/9/15 <G.kalaimani@airtel.in>

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Thanks Karthik .Very good Examples.

 My  Question is :
 Few Vallalar members are very much grace about ANDAVAR. but they still continuing the Non-Veg Food .Will they get Grace really from vallalar ? if yes/no  how? plz clarify.

Vallal Malaradi Vazhga Vazhga!!
 Ella Uyirgalum Enbuttru Vazhga!!.


With Warm Regards,
       KALAI





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Inbutru Vazga

Dear Raja,

Ego - If we think we are doing all the things means "EGO" is mixing in our activity
Example :
I am giving food to poor people..."EGO Mixing"

Confidence : If we think,
by God's Grace , I will do all things... this is real confidence ...
Example :
By God's Grace I am giivng Food to poor People.. Even If it is not now, Surely God will make me to give...  "Grace Mixing"

others answers also welcome

Anbudan
Karthikeyan

2008/9/12 Karthikeyan J <karthikeyan.jayapal@googlemail.com>
Inbutru Vazga!!!!

Dear Friends

Next Sath-Vichara Question from Th.Raja...,

What is the difference between "
EGO" and "CONFIDENCE"?

Answers are welcome any one of the references( thiru-arutpa / thiru-mandiram / thiru-vasagam / thiru-kural / gnanigal )

Anbudan
Karthikeyan

Subscribe vallalar groups

2008/9/10 Raja B. Kumara Guru Samy <Raja_Samy@infosys.com>
Thanks anna..

 

Yet another question:

 

What is the difference between EGO and CONFIDENCE?

 

 

With love

Raja.B


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Vallal Malaradi Vaalga Vaalga


With KindRegards,
Karthikeyan.J

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